• The Cardinal and the President

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    In an interview in England with ABS-CBN early this week, Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle raised questions and concerns about the National Transformation Council’s call for President Benigno Aquino 3rd to resign over what it saw as grave misgovernance.

    The NTC includes several Catholic prelates, along with other religious leaders, civil society, government, and other sectoral figures. Last month, Cebu Archbishop Emeritus Ricardo Cardinal Vidal, with several bishops standing behind him in his office, read to media a council statement reiterating its call for Aquino to step down. Over the past year NTC has convened meetings in several cities nationwide to disseminate its views and build public support.

    Rather than bringing down structures, Tagle urged, “We need to mobilize and strengthen our institutions. We cannot be changing and changing things just like that.” He added: “Elections are close anyway, so let the process proceed and the people decide. He [Aquino] is not running for re-election.”

    The popular and widely respected Cardinal also questioned the NTC’s proposed non-partisan transition council to replace Aquino and institute reforms if he steps down: “Who are these people, and who will comprise this [transition body]? Who will establish it when there is also doubt about some institutions?”

    A hierarchy divided
    With Tagle’s statement, the Catholic Church leadership has become even more divided on whether or not to call for Aquino’s resignation. Soon after Cardinal Vidal issued the NTC statement after this 84th birthday celebration in Cebu, his Archdiocese said the archbishop emeritus merely read the document, but did not support it.

    Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma also denied backing the resignation call, stressing that he was at the event just to celebrate Vidal’s birthday. Palma also argued: “The Church is not in the position to issue such political statements, for it is beyond her competence.”

    The Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines has not taken a collective stand on Aquino. Said its president, Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas, early last month: “Before we have all the facts, the CBCP cannot morally join in the calls for [Aquino’s] resignation, leaving this decision to his humble and prayerful discernment of his capacity to lead and the support he has not only from officials of government but from members of Philippine society.”

    Days later Villegas said on behalf of the bishops: “While resolute action is necessary on the part of all, precipitous action and recourse to extra-constitutional measures will only visit more harm and misery on our people.”

    On the quest for truth and accountability in the Mamasapano massacre of 44 police commandos, Villegas added: “The President and his advisers must give a full and satisfactory accounting of their actions in respect to this tragic loss. The targets of the SAF operations were characterized as ‘high value targets’. If the police went after them, it can only be because they were ordered to do so. … The decision was made on the highest levels.”

    For all their apparent dissonance, every one of the prelates have reasonable points.

    As Cardinal Tagle noted, elections are near and national institutions should be strengthened, not torn down. And he echoes legitimate concerns about the entity taking over if Aquino steps down — a question regime changers must satisfactorily answer.

    The NTC also wants to strengthen democratic institutions through reform, starting with the electoral system. But it argues with good reason that Aquino must go for deep and true reform to happen, because it is his rule that has weakened institutions by bribing Congress, browbeating the Judiciary, and manipulating automated elections, with no sign of mending its ways.

    Archbishop Palma rightly points out, as papal encyclicals had stressed, that the Church hierarchy’s competence lies in moral issues, not political analysis and action, which are best left to the laity.

    The CBCP statements, however, correctly raised crucial political questions regarding Aquino’s ability to lead, the support he enjoys from state officials and the citizenry, his and his advisers’ accountability for Mamasapano, and the right and wrong measures for political change, eschewing extra-constitutional ones.

    Hard questions for Church and State
    With the President evading blame for the January 25 debacle, Catholic bishops must again review their individual and collective positions on the moral standing of national leaders and their rule. Among the burning questions facing bishops and their flocks:

    Should the nation and the faithful accept Aquino’s insistence that he did nothing wrong in the Mamasapano operation, other than perhaps switching off his cellphone?

    Can democratic institutions be reformed and strengthened under a regime that uses pork barrel to bribe legislators, has practiced what the CBCP called “selective prosecution” of anomalies, and is gearing up for the third round of automated election sleaze?

    Should the nation face formidable security challenges in coming months — including rebel and terrorist threats, international meetings leading up to the APEC Summit in November, and the usual election violence — under a Commander-in-Chief in which soldiers and police have significantly impaired confidence (see “Do the troops trust Aquino?”, published January 17)?

    Of course, all those questions would be academic if Aquino quits or falls. Significant segments of the uniformed services are well aware of what their Commander-in-Chief did before, during and after the Mamasapano carnage.

    No whitewash can hide from the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine National Police the commands Aquino issued at the urging of his peace adviser, which those in the know have been sharing with others. And every soldier or law enforcer, along with the whole nation, is now witnessing how leadership responsibility is shirked, truth and honor are violated, and those obeying orders are made scapegoats.

    If these undeniable truths lead to regime change, the big question then might be: Should the Church and the people accept and support a new government that heeds the bishops’ call for reform?

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    1. sancho alconce on

      Why should we allow ourselves putting these modern day shamans masquerading as priests and pastors lead us and help shape our political future? In a true democracy, governance is purely a secular endeavor. No religious favors/practices. Adding religion into the mix divides the nation more.

      • victor m. hernandez on

        To realize your aspiration of a true secular democratic governance, you’ll have to be ready to battle for a very long haul. Christianity in the Philippines was founded on 300 years of nurturing the Christian faith, coupled with organization, a caring one, all over the country. By March 16, 2015, the Church in the Philippines shall have completed 500 year. The Republic is barely 70 years old, a very young year for a nation. More importantly, you’ll need to amend the principle and foundation of the Constitution (see the preamble). Talking of a purely secular endeavor, that is democratic governance, is a wishful thinking for a very long time. Indispensable success factors for your aspiration are patience, perseverance, sacrifices, doggedness, and single mindedness of purpose that will equal, if not surpass, those of the early missionaries, and the present local and missionary clergies. I don’t think our present crop of politicians are ready to undergo such untold sacrfices. Except for a few, if any, they are used to an easy and comfortable lifestyle.

      • Justaskingseriously on

        In a true democracy, it is the demos (greek for people) who rule (cracy in greek). It is that simple. Why make it complicated? Shamans or no shamans, if they are peope, they also rule with you.

        Secular is derived from Latin. Ever heard of saecula saeculorum? That’s Latin for world without end. So if the shamans are still with you in this world, they can always participate in the secular affairs of the country. The do not need your permission nor anyone else’s permission. Oh, by the way, even those who have gone from this world, deserve to be memorialized. The fallen SAF 44 are gone from this world; their voice is not gone, because their loved ones are still in this world. No amount of finger pointing can soothe the pain. No amount of denial of culpability can wash away the atrocity. The lure of thousands of dollars that go with a nobel prize for peace is really at the core of all this talk about peace. Of course, I am always for maintaining the peace even if it means hunting down the peace destroyers. That is why the demos pay for the maintenance of the government machinery that includes the Armed Forces and the Police. The demos in a democracy should demonstrate for the ouster of any official who keeps trying to fool the demos all the time. In other democracies, the press are guardians of the demos. Officials cannot fool the people even once without having to commit suicide for sheer shame. Only in the Philippines are the demos fooled even by the press. Hence, all the confusion in the minds of the demos. Those who control the media (tv, radio, tabloids) have invested their wealth in maintaining the system of deception. Modern day shamans are made to appear villains for seeing through all the sham in philippine politics. Mga walang hiya talaga itong mga naghahanap buhay sa gobierno. Sa bagay, kung hanapbuhay ang pinag uusapan, ok lang ba kahit ano ang gagawin upang manatili sa puesto? Hindi yata kung and demos ang tunay na namamahalaan. True democracy, sancho alconce? You might just be one of the people who make government office a hanapbuhay.

    2. With regards to the protection of an institution, it is rightfully acknowledge that such must be the case, for having a weak institution could result to a weakened nation. However, if that institution is headed by an entity whose competence is reprehensible, it is by virtue of the will of the people through the constitution, that this entity should be and must be impeached or replaced by a more abled person.

      The dilemma that present itself in this case is that, those who would replace this non-performing asset, are themselves of dubious reputation. So, in order to satisfy that question which Tagle posed about – “Who are these people, and who will comprise this [transition body]? Who will establish it when there is also doubt about some institutions?”.

      It will have to be the main responsibility of NTC to expose to the public at large, the whole set-up and to come clean, for them to generate complete trust and cooperation from the general public, whom they aim to serve.

    3. Carlo L. Adan on

      Comment on CONCERNED CITIZEN and COLUMNIST SALUDO’S to anima agrava:

      The important point is that in a couple of months if Aquino is not ousted or if he does not act and use his powers to cancel the control of the Smartmatic Automated Election Systtem using the PCOS Machines over our electoral process, the PCOS machines will again–with all their illegal and criminal violations of the Republic Acts governing our elections and Automated Elections–be the system used in the 2016 elections.

      All that you both, Mr or Ms Concerned Citizen and Mr. Saludo, are niceties that are in line with Archbishop Cardinal Tagle’;s uninformed, ignorant and high-schoolish HOPES for honesty and sanity to return to our country through the electoral process that has been obliterated, demolished, massacred by the PCOS machines!

      Germany, many counties and states in the US, Australia, Switzerland among dozens of other countries have abandoned the so-caled Automated System lacking in transparency and not allowing voters in the precinct level to see if their ballots were counted right or not. We shoyuld do the same here.

      But you Concerned Citizen, Mr. Saludo and SRchbishop Cardinal Tagle do not seem to be moved by an urgency about doing something to undo RIGHT NOW THE REIGN OF THE Smartmatic PCOS MACHINES.

      That is something that the WISER, LESS NAIVE, and MORE INFORMED members of the NTC can see and want to solve NOW because it cannot be solved anymore in a couple of months much less in 2016.

      Nassan ba ang mga puso, utak at pagmamahal sa katotohanan ninyo?

      • As regular readers of Republic Service may remember, the column has consistently and repeatedly warned of PCOS anomalies and called for an end to their use. For instance, the January 22 column stated, in part:

        “But before we get all caught up in presidentiable speculation, let us again remember the most important election issue which should occupy the citizenry: the automated election system and the Commission on Elections repeated and unrepentant disregard of indispensable and legally mandated safeguards.
        “These measures include digital signatures needed to ensure that only results from authorized counting machines are tabulated, and the absolutely essential review of the source code, which dictates the way votes are counted by the Precinct Count Optical Scan computers.
        “When the Comelec dispensed with digital signatures, it was the equivalent of accepting any election tally, even those scribled on toilet paper or table napkins. And by releasing the source code just two weeks before polls, far too late for substantive review, there was no way to prevent the use of misprogrammed codes which counted votes differently from those cast by voters.
        “A repeat of that illegal and anomalous scenario looms with the repeat award to Smartmatic of the election system maintenance and operating contract.
        “The Catholic Church and other guardians of integrity must tell our people about this threat to our democracy. And the Supreme Court must signal the unlawfulness of casting aside basic electronic safeguards by ruling the 2010 elections invalid for failing to implement those legally mandated measures, even as elected leaders are allowed to stay in office.
        “Stop 2016 PCOS fraud now!”

        Thank you.

    4. mahina tuhod talaga ang kardinal na yan gaya ng idol nyang si benedict, ang layo kay cardinal sin

    5. Noy Best Lies on

      Hoy Ginoong Soc Villegas; paano malalaman ang katotohanan eh ang kakampi mo sinungaling! Anong let’s get ALL the facts? Ano ka hilo? Tanungin mo ang kumag na si Noynoy kung handa siyang magsabi ng katotohanan…kakampihan mo ba ang sinungaling? Halata naman, kahit kamo sabihin mong nagju-judge ako, sinasabi ko lang kung ano ang lumalabas sa bibig mismo ng presidente mo!

    6. When a clergy invokes his right to express his political right as a citizen, he should use his name without his ecclesiastical title. When he affix his title, either he is making it as a Church position or he is using his title at the expense of the Church for his personal reasons. Is he now trading his religious function for a political purpose?

      • Justaskingseriously on

        Jesse, I am glad that you clarified by stating that you are referring to the NTC Archbishops and not Archbishop Tagle. Even without your clarification, the issues remain for everybody to consider. That is precisely what the author, Ricardo Saludo, is trying to sort out.

        Titles are just that. Titles. If we dwell too much on the titles, we tend to muddle the issues. Arguments need to zero in on the issues. There is one issue that is the root of all the issues: AES established as law by R.A. 9369 or Election Automation. The NTC members (I’m not a member) have demonstrable basis for saying that the safeguards for transparent elections were unlawfully removed. The elections of 2010 and 2013 were fixed. They therefore started a call for transforming the nation by calling for BSA to “step down”. To call for BSA to “resign” would be tantamount to accepting that his election was not rigged. If BSA remains, what will happen to the elections in 2016? Of course, BSA will make sure to fool all the people.

        Your friend, Archbishop Tagle, is BSA’s friend. That makes you their friend. I get that. But for the sake of the country, let’s not make it a matter of friendship.

        I have to insert here my observation on how media muddle the issues. A columnist for Sun.Star Cebu calls the Bishops associated with the NTC as “running” for Vice President of Binay. I emailed him to let his readers know that the Church has a Canon Law. Canon Law prohibits all clergy to run for political office. When I emailed him after he failed to educate his readers, he questioned my understanding of the issues instead. It was then that I looked closely at Sun.Star Publishing Corporation. Their stated political affiliation is “independent”. But subtlety was obvious in the color code: too much yellow. In England, their tabloids would be termed red top tabloids. Sun.Star.com.ph is a yellow top tabloid. Look it up yourself online. The color yellow is glaring.

        Citizens have rights. Rights always have corresponding obligations that need not be expressly written in the constitution. I leave it to your sense of obligation to find out the rest of the issues that have come to light including those that may yet come to the awareness of citizens who should feel obliged to continue reading with understanding.

    7. concerned citizen on

      Nakakalungkot na maraming nagsasabing di dapat makialam ang simbahan sa gobyerno. Paanong di sila makikialam, e lahat ng ginagawa ng gobyerno ay nagpapahirap ng buhay, o pumapatay, sa mga Pilipino, Katoliko man o hindi? Hindi ba parte yon ng responsibilidad ng simbahan — ang pangalagaan ang kapakanan at kabutihan ng mga anak ng Diyos? Para sa akin, kung hindi makikialam ang mga pari at obispo sa mga maling palakad ng gobyerno na nagpapahirap ng buhay ko at ng maraming Pilipino, wala sila talagang pakialam sa atin at niloloko lang nila tayo, tulad ng gobyerno natin. Magpasalamat tayo na ngayong wala nang pakialam sa atin ang halos lahat ng mga politiko natin, at kahit na ang media, at ang pakialam na lang nila ay ang pagpapayaman sa sarili nila kahit na ang kapalit ay ang paghihirap nating mga Pilipino at pagyurak sa karangalan natin, may mga mabubuting pari pa ring pinaglalabanan ang kapakanan natin. Kung di nila gagawin yon, sino pa ang aasahan natin?

    8. concerned citizen on

      In my humble opinion, Cardinal Tagle’s urging us to pin all our hopes on the coming elections is proof that even our very busy ecclesiastical figures (priests, bishops, etc.) should find time to read about the real goings-on in the country so that they could give the right advice to the faithful, who are looking up to them and their wisdom especially in very confusing times and environments, like the Philippines at present. A priest once told me that many of his fellow priests, and his bishop, do not know what’s happening in the country and rely entirely on TV news programs like TV Patrol for the news, just like many other Filipinos.

    9. Amnata Pundit on

      Bakit ba kailangan maki-alam ang Simbahan sa politika? Meron na bang magandang nangyari sa pakiki-alam nila? Okay kaya sa kanila kung sila naman ang paki-alaman, gaya ng pa-audit ang mga kayamanan nila dahil LAHAT ITO ay galing sa tao. Remember the SC’s first landmark decision on the coconut levy: They are private funds vested with public interest? How about if a government the Church is strongly opposed to comes into power, and uses all government resources to expose their FALSE TEACHINGS to the people, will that be fair and square to these ambitious churchmen? These version of friars past should just stick to spiritual salvation, and abandon their wealth seeking, power seeking and dominion seeking ways. The Church is not God, SHE is only a FRATERNITY of CELIBATE MEN who are as flawed as the rest of mankind, very flawed.

      • concerned citizen on

        Paanong hindi makikialam ang simbahan sa gobyerno e lahat ng ginagawa ng gobyerno ay nagpapahirap ng buhay, o pumapatay, sa mga Pilipino, Katoliko man o hindi. Hindi ba parte yon ng responsibilidad ng simbahan — ang pangalagaan ang kapakanan at kabutihan ng mga anak ng Diyos? Para sa akin, kung hindi makikialam ang mga pari at obispo sa mga maling palakad ng gobyerno na nagpapahirap ng buhay ko at ng maraming Pilipino, wala sila talagang pakialam sa atin at niloloko lang nila tayo, tulad ng gobyerno natin. Magpasalamat tayo na ngayong wala nang pakialam sa atin ang halos lahat ng mga politiko natin, at kahit na ang media, at ang pakialam na lang nila ay ang pagpapayaman sa sarili nila kahit na ang kapalit ay ang paghihirap nating mga Pilipino at pagyurak sa karangalan natin, may mga mabubuting pari pa ring pinaglalabanan ang kapakanan natin. Kung di nila gagawin yon, sino pa ang aasahan natin?

      • concerned citizen on

        I’d rather have flawed men defending my rights and the rights of many others than perfect men (is there any?) who couldn’t care less about me and others and who just look on while I and others suffer….

      • Justaskingseriously on

        Paramount in a democracy is the rule of law. The constitution is the highest law of the land. Article II, Section 6 states that the separation of church and state shall be inviolable. Let us suppose that the State would violate that separation. What is in it for the State? Can you think of any good that the State would achieve? What good will it do if the State were to take over the teaching of religious matters? If the State were to audit the funds of the church, what law would the auditors invoke if they find some errors in the accounting? R.A. 9184 or the Procurement Law? R.A. 3019 or the Anti-graft and corrupt practices Act?

        You are right. The State is capable of persecuting, terrorizing, tyrannizing the citizens. That is precisely why the citizens enshrined their protection in their constitution. Members of the various churches are citizens too. Even the members of what you call the fraternity of celibate men are citizens too. What the State can do to them the same State can do to you too. So you better study Article III of the constitution. Be ready to invoke your rights in the Bill of Rights. As citizens, the celibate men can also invoke their bill of rights. But some of them are too busy attending to the spiritual needs of the people that they do not even seem to know about their rights when people like you dismiss them and relegate them to tend only to their spiritual concerns. You should actually be glad when you can count on them to be on the side of citizens when their support as citizens is desperately needed as in these trying times.

        As to the money of the church, people have donated that money. After paying their taxes, they donate what they can to the church. Would you advocate taxing the church? That would be an obvious double taxation. The State might just as well confiscate the funds just because they can. That is where even you should protest, because the separation of church and state shall be inviolable.

      • Amnata Pundit on

        If these clerics are disagreeing among themselves about this Boy Sayad how can we be sure they really know right from wrong? Proof that the Church is a failure in their supposedly primary mission of spiritual salvation is the fact that the problems they are trying to address with their CONSTANT MEDDLING are caused by people who are Catholics! These are people born to Catholics, raised by Catholics and went to Catholic schools such as Ateneo. ITO BA ANG ASAL NG MGA TAO NA NASAPIAN NG HOLY SPIRIT? NASA ILALIM BA TALAGA NG HOLY SPIRIT ANG SIMBAHAN? BAKA NAMAN UNHOLY SPIRIT?

      • Justaskingseriously on

        I would like to direct you to my reply to Jesse. Mud always makes clear water turn dirty if you swirl it. It appears to me that you are swirling the issues so that I do not have a clear idea of what you are saying.

        Kung nais mong managalog upang luminaw ang ibig sabihin, mas ma-igi sana. Huwag sana sisihin ang pagka catolico o anumang tiwala. Malamang ang tunay na problema ay maaayos lang sa tulong ng isang clinical psychologist o isang psychiatrist. Parang ganon na ang nangyayari kay Benigno Simeon Aquino. Sa isip niya, malinaw na dapat sisihin ang ibang tao. Kung anu anumang dahilan, ayaw niyang amenen ang sariling kapalpakan. Sa ganon, wala talagang mangyayari upang tumigil na ang mga suliranin ng bayan. Obligasyon ng kahit sinong mamamayan na gawing tuwid ang baluktot. Hindi yan dapat tingnan na meddling o paki-alam.

    10. Vicente Penetrante on

      Priests can only listen to confessors, perhaps believe, and give absolution with penance – no time for them to fact-find.

    11. The Filipino people should also be awaken by what is happening now in the West Philippine Sea. The Chinese are laughing at us and even wanted among us to fight each other while they continuously illegally invading our territories. What the government is doing now? They should re-focused their sights on what the Chinese are doing in the Spratlys. It’s time to bomb this structures they are doing. Mr. President do something about it before its late.

      • Thank you Savior for injecting the subject about the activities of our Chinese neighbors. I suggest you write more about it, you might get the attention of our ‘leaders’.

    12. BSA 3: The most divisive president the country ever had. He had divided the people, divided institutions and divided his own family. Whatever there are that remain undivided are still work in progress. That will be his legacy.

    13. Anima A. Agrava on

      Cardinal Tagle wrongly bases his hope on the electoral process. And I am disappointed that you, Mr. Saludo, did not point this out in your article. If Aquino is not ousted or if he doesn’t voluntarily resign, we the citizens of our country The electorate wonn’t have the new president that we want because the PCOS machines will decide whom to give the votes to–according to the will of Smartmatic techies controlled by the Comelec and Aquino and his allies.

      • concerned citizen on

        Mr. Saludo actually did, in this paragraph: “The NTC also wants to strengthen democratic institutions through reform, starting with the electoral system. But it argues with good reason that Aquino must go for deep and true reform to happen, because it is his rule that has weakened institutions by bribing Congress, browbeating the Judiciary, and manipulating automated elections, with no sign of mending its ways.” In other words, he’s saying that while Cardinal Tagle has a point, in principle, that we should wait for the elections rather than resorting to extra-constitutional means to remove the president, the NTC has a point when it said that the electoral process has been compromised, and therefore, we cannot pin our hopes on the elections. Mr. Saludo just expressed it in a way that would make his discussion very objective and rational rather than emotional and judgmental….

      • The article did raise concerns about elections. It said the NTC “argues with good reason that Aquino must go for deep and true reform to happen, because it is his rule that has weakened institutions by bribing Congress, browbeating the Judiciary, and manipulating automated elections, with no sign of mending its ways.” And it cited as one of the three major questions facing the nation and the Church: “Can democratic institutions be reformed and strengthened under a regime that uses pork barrel to bribe legislators, has practiced what the CBCP called “selective prosecution” of anomalies, and is gearing up for the third round of automated election sleaze?” Thank you.

    14. Isog ang bol-anon on

      Tinuod kana. the color black before should be also black now, white before should also be white. wrongdoings should be wrongdoings.

    15. Leodegardo Pruna on

      Better to truly practice the separation of state and church. State on legal matters, church on moral ones. Otherwise, we have to contend on confusion and disillusion. God bless the Philippines.

    16. PCOS Aquino must be booted out NOW. The president is proof certified, incompetent infantile, pathological Liar, living in fantasy brain of mongoloid cell. For BS Aquino to remain president means Filipinos are like him. Creatures devoid of morality. All are corrupt including Cardinal Tagle.

    17. BS Aquino may not be running for the presidency again, but they have the BS PCOS to make sure they still have control of the government. How many times do they have to slap the people with crap in the face before Cardinal Tagle, and passive people like him says enough?
      I thought he reads the bible? Bakit hindi nya alam yung, “Nasa Diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa”?

    18. For the Pajero recipients and ambitious people behind the NTC, wake up and just wait for the 2016 elections. Masyado kayong atat-na-atat magkaroon ng puwesta Malacanang sa pamumuno ni Binay. Wala ng pag-asa si Binay sa 2016 elections kaya kailangan ninyong gumawa ng NTC para sa ambisyon ninyo. Cardinal Tagle is totally CORRECT. Nobody at this time in the NTC who is totally free of sins to head any transitional government. Binay has no more chances in the 2016 elections for the whole nation knows his family’s corruption.

    19. Sana itong mga pari ay wag ng pumapel,nagmumukha lang silang tanga sa tao,dahil maykanya-kanya silang sinasabi,hindi naman nila mapanindigan,hindi ba sila nahihiya, sarili nilang salita ay binabaluktot nila!
      Mr,yen mukhang binigyan mo pa sila ng palusot,!hehehe! Bigla yatang bumaba ang paghanga ko!
      Si paring tagle at Aquino mukhang magkamukha na,,kayang -kaya din niyang payukuin ang kapwa bishop niya!natuto tuloy magsinungaling ang mga ito!at ang mga taga-NTC mukhang biglang nawalan ng ipinaglalaban,dahil walang masabi kay paring tagle!