• Where has Sen. Grace Poe Llamanzares’ sense of honor and shame gone?

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    This question has to be asked in light of Mrs. Llamanzares’s completely crass effort to promote herself as a possible presidential candidate, despite the clear language of the Constitution that renders her ineligible to seek the presidency or the vice presidency or even to remain in the Senate, where she was “elected” in 2013 after making false claims about her citizenship and residency.

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    She is now facing a disqualification suit before the Senate Electoral Tribunal for making those false claims, and the case is set for oral arguments at the Supreme Court on September 21. She has submitted to the SET some documents in her defense, including two certificates of live birth, in an effort to show that she is a natural-born Filipino, who has resided in the country for six years and six months immediately preceding the election—-longer than the two years required of senatorial candidates.

    Both certificates are spurious, and tend to support the position of the petitioner rather than that of the defense. Thus, during the preliminary conference at the Supreme Court last Friday (Sept. 11), petitioner Rizalito David, through counsel Manuelito Luna, adopted the same certificates as part of his evidence, to the visible chagrin and consternation of the defense.

    Justice Antonio Carpio, who chairs the SET, suggested that petitioner drop the residency issue and concentrate on the citizenship issue instead. And David agreed. The conscript media saw this as Round One for Mrs. Llamanzares, but this is rather naive. She has not won any round at all; to the contrary, Carpio’s suggestion may have brought the play closer to “sudden death.”

    In a sense, the residency issue is already subsumed in the citizenship issue. Unless the Court declares Mrs. Llamanzares a natural-born citizen, in spite of the Constitution and the circumstances of her birth, which show her to have been stateless at birth, there would be no need to raise the residency or any other issue to oust her from office. Once the Court declares she is not a natural-born citizen—-or even a legally naturalized Filipino—-it would not matter anymore how long she has been in the country.

    The first certificate of live birth, dated Nov. 27, 1968, shows that Mary Grace was born a foundling, and found in the parish church of Jaro, Iloilo on Sept. 3, 1968 at 9:30 am by Edgardo Militar who later put her in the custody of Emiliano Militar of Sta Isabel Street, Jaro. But the typewritten document contains so many handwritten alterations, which render it void and worthless. It identifies the child as Mary Grace Natividad Contreras Militar, without indicating how she got her surname “Contreras Militar,” but this name is bracketed (as if for deletion) and on top of it is written “Sonora Poe.”

    Its most fatal flaw is a handwritten note of seven short lines on its upper right hand saying the child was “adopted by the spouses Ronald Allan Poe and Jesusa Sonora Poe as per Court Order, Municipal Court, San Juan, Rizal, by Judge Alfredo Gorgonio dated May 13, 1974, under Special Proclamation No. 138.” The order itself is legally questionable because adoption cases normally belong to the jurisdiction of the regional trial court, rather than to the municipal court. But the more important issue is, how did a legal document dated Nov. 27, 1968 manage to take cognizance of an adoption decision, which purportedly took place six years later? This appears to be conclusive proof that the certificate was manufactured on or after May 13, 1974, and is therefore null and void ab initio. It has no legal value; it cannot be the source or proof of any claim that Mrs. Llamanzares was born a Filipino or became a natural-born Filipino after her birth. One is either a natural-born Filipino or not upon birth; nobody becomes a natural-born Filipino after birth.

    The second certificate of live birth is no less invalid than the first. Dated May 4, 2006, or 38 years after Mrs. Llamanzares was born, it was executed by Mrs. Jesusa Sonora Poe, her adoptive mother, who identifies the child no longer as Mary Grace Natividad Militar but rather as Mary Grace Sonora Poe, allegedly born to herself (Jesusa) and to her husband Ronald Allan Poe in Jaro, Iloilo City on Sept. 3, 1968, several months before they were married on Dec. 25, 1968 in Valenzuela, Bulacan. No medical or legal evidence exists to show that Mrs. Poe ever conceived and delivered a child during her marriage to the famous actor Fernando Poe, Jr. who died on Dec. 13, 2004. All the known facts about Mrs. Llamanzares’ birth, including public statements made by Mrs. Poe and Mrs. Llamanzares herself, contradict this false claim.

    And yet in her 2006 petition for “reacquisition” of her non-existent Philippine citizenship, and her certificate of candidacy for the Senate in 2013, Mrs. Llamanzares repeats her false claim that she is a natural-born citizen, born to the spouses Ronald and Jesusa Poe in Jaro, Iloilo on Sept. 3, 1968. And so far she has gotten away wth it! How many times must someone tell a brazen lie before he or she is stopped repeating it and profiting from it? Or does Mrs. Llamanzares believe in the Nazi propaganda dictum that a lie repeated consistently ultimately becomes a truth?

    If she has not read the Constitution, Mrs. Llamanzares has enough lawyer friends, beginning with her apparent gray eminence Sen. Francis Escudero, to tell her what the Constitution says. It says no person may be elected President, Vice President, Senator or Congressman unless he is, among other things, a natural-born citizen of the Philippines—-meaning, “a citizen of the Philippines from birth without having to perform any act to acquire or perfect his citizenship.”

    The Constitution means exactly what it says, and there is only one way of understanding it—-the way the people, who are the real authors of the document, understand it. It is pure conceit for Mrs. Llamanzares’ swaggering financiers and legal supporters to boast that the Constitution could be interpreted any which way they would like to interpret it, and that with their power and money they could make the Court dance to their wicked tune.

    This is an obscenity and there is no basis for it. On Aug. 18, 2015, the Supreme Court unseated a popularly elected town mayor in Kauswagan, Lanao del Norte for having failed to comply with the requirements of his reacquisition of citizenship, after having been a citizen of the United States. This is the case of Rommel Arnado, a former natural-born citizen, who became an American because of naturalization, relinquished his US citizenship, and on July 10, 2008 took an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines, pursuant to RA 9225, or the Dual Citizenship Law of 2003. However he used his US passport to travel at least twice to the US after taking his oath of allegiance. The Court interpreted this use of the US passport as an act of recanting his renunciation of his US citizenship.

    Except for the fact that Mrs. Llamanzares was never a natural-born Filipino who became a US citizen after 2003, and therefore not qualified to benefit from the Dual Citizenship Law, the Arnado case is virtually on all fours with that of Mrs. Llamanzares; she continued to use her US passport until 2009 after she took her oath of allegiance to the Philippine government in 2006. But even without going into this, her not being a former natural-born Filipino disqualifies her from being covered by RA 9225, and her false claim that she is natural-born renders her “reacquired citizenship” null and void.

    The dire implications of this must have dawned on Mrs. Llamanzares and her defense counsel during the preliminary conference that they decided to appeal to popular passion rather than to the law. She has therefore decided to launch her candidacy, based on her alleged (but unverified) popularity. On Monday, the first full page ad on the Philippine Daily Inquirer, costing at least P400,000, launched the so-called “ALL4GP MOVEMENT” (All for Grace Poe Movement) with the image of Mrs. Llamanzares standing beside FPJ and the following text:

    “Kami ay nagbuklod upang ipaglaban ang katuparan ng ating mga pangarap.

    Salamat FPJ, sa iyong anak nanatiling buhay ang aming pag-asa para sa bagong umaga!

    Ikaw at Ako, anuman ang Lahi, sama-sama para sa Ganap na Pagbabago!”

    (We have banded together to fight for the fulfillment of our dreams. Thank you FPJ, in your offspring lives our hope for a new tomorrow. You and I, whatever our race, all together for real change!”)

    The Llamanzares camp is expected to make some announcements today. But the central message is out—-you and I, whatever our race, and whatever the Constitution says, should stand together for Grace Poe. All the fortune tellers, fengshui dabblers and soothsayers have been mobilized to predict Mrs. Llamanzares’ unstoppable “victory,” just as about a year ago they started predicting the presidency of Alan Peter Cayetano. Assuming pigs will finally fly, and the whole Court is bought to pronounce Mrs. Llamanzares as a natural-born citizen, this could be the first time the country will have a president with no clear nationality, but with an American husband and American children—-an American family.

    There was a time within memory when even the most shameless politicians would have hesitated and said, “nakahihiya!” (So shameful!) to attempt anything like this. But all that is gone. In this time of Grace Poe Llamanzares, honor is something you feed to the dogs.

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    1. Pag nagging preisdenti si Poe sigurado ang interest ng America ang kanyang ipagtataguyod dahil nasa kay uncle Sam ang loyalty niya. Hanggang kalian pa ba tayo papa alipin sa America? I am calling all patriotic peace loving Filipino people to say no to American intervention in our country. Hindi malayo na ang CIA ay behind Poe’s candidacy

    2. Ramon Sta. Cruz on

      @Sir Kit Tatad: With due respect, I believe your knowledge of the law would be more useful if you file a case on the matter or much less lend legal support to Mr. Rizalito David’s lonely fight he aptly dubbed “David vs. Poeliath”. We all know that opinions expressed ‘out of court’ will not be able to correct a wrongful act.

      • Ruderico B. Tulio on

        Kit Tatad cannot file a case because he is not the a complainant with real interest in the case filed by Mr. David with the SET. Only persons directly affected by the winning of Poe has the right to file the case. Mr. Tatad I think was not a losing candidate. As to support, I also think that coming out with his “out of court” opinion against Poe already shows that Mr. Tatad is supporting Mr. David’s case against Poe. Maybe after Mr. Poe has filed her COC, Mr. Tatad may if he wish may file a disqualification case as a citizen and electorate for the Presidency. Expect that a disqualification case will be filed against Poe coming from any registered voter or party threatened by Poe’s winning because they believe that if the disqualification case is filed after the election or is to be decided after the election, it may be mooted (I am nt sure) by her election if the survey’s proved right. I think though that Chiz is just using Poe to convince her to aspire for the Presidency so Chiz could ride on her popularity or improve his popularity.

    3. tadesse mengesha on

      ang sabi nh kit tatad, maghanap ng iba maliban sa tatlo. It means the 4th in survey, and thats Duterte for president..

    4. This is a blatant lies at isang malaking kahihiyan n nmn sa lahi nating mga pinoy. Wla nba tayong makuhang ibang kandidato sa pagkapangulo at kay Poe na isang sinungaling from the start? Ang sabi nga ng bible..may masasalok ka bng malinis na tubig mula sa maduming sisidlan? Mula sa kasinungalingan ano bng pangako ang maibibigay nitong katuparan? Kundi isa na nmng self serving and a bad leader and experience as we have in the past. We never learned!

    5. This i a blatant lies atnisang malaking kahihiyan n nmn sa lahi nating mga pinoy. Wl nb tayong makuhang ibng kandidato sa pagkapangulo at kay Poe na isang sinungaling from the start? Ang sabi nga ng bible..may masasalok ka bng malinis na tubig mula sa maduming sisidlan? Mula sa kasinungalingan ano bng pangako ang maibibigay nitong katuparan? Kundi isa na nmng self serving and a bad leader and experience as we have in the past. We never learned!

    6. Pancho Baltazar on

      Iba ang take ko dito. Ang posisyon bilang pangulo ay napaka importante at sensitibong opisina ng ating bansa. I will not take the legal issues of whether Grace Poe is a natural born citizen or not. She cannot be blamed as a child for what really transpired at that time.

      I will touch on the MORAL Issue. When Grace Poe Pledged he allegiance to the United States of AMerica, the pledge included her having to renounce whatever citizenship she has. She essentially renounced her being a Filipino. This renouncement came when she is already of Age and she knows what she is pledging for.

      When you renounce being a Filipino, wala ka nang karapatan na sumumpa ulit lalo na ang maghangad na maging Presidente ng ating Bansa.

      Suriin din natin ang mga citizenship ng buong pamilya ni Grace. Ang Asawa ba niya ay nagpaka Filipino na din. Ang mga anak nila ay Pilipino na din. Baka naman for convenience na naman ay sabihing OO sumumpa na kami na Pilipino na kami. Suriin natin at baka naman Dual Citizenship and status nila. Hindi dapat katanggap tanggap yan.

      So mga Tunay na Pilipino na boboto sa 2016, pagisipan ninyong mabuti ang iboboto ninyo. Kung hindi ninyo kayang tangapin na si Chiz Escudero ang magiging Presidente ng Pilipinas, iba na lang ang iboto ninyo at pag naluklok si Grace at Chiz at sa huli ay mapatunayan na hindi qualified si Grace, si Chiz ang hahalili. Kaya ba nating tangapin ito.

      Sa nasabi kong ito, hindi ko rin ini-endorso si Mar Roxas at Si Binay. Humanap pa tayo ng iba pang personalidad liban sa 3 ito.

    7. Charlie Jalandoni on

      Grace Poe should have resolved her citizenship issue first before deciding to run. If Grace Poe runs for president I think she wasted the very good opportunity in store for her that if only she runs as VP of Mar Roxas. I am sure they are a winning tandem for 2016 presidential election and I am pretty sure that Grace Poe will be the next candidate for president after Roxas term ends. Sayang na sayang si Grace.. bakit nagmamadali siya…

      • your right sir. every one is thinking about what she done and as you said
        ambition ni Chiz talaga yan. sino ba ang gumawa nang paraan at gumulo sa election noong 2013 na naging sanhe nang pagkatalo ni Roxas kay Binay hindi sya. ngayon ang plano ay sila ni binay ang mag sama or siya mismo ang ma upo sa malakanang two bird in one shot dpo ba manalo si Poe at ma disqualify sya ang papalit ganoon din si binay isusulong niya na ma impeach si binay dahil sa mg sa kaso nito. again syan na naman ang pusibling pumalit. akoy wala ring pinapaborang kandidato piro dapat mag isip tayo nang tama at iwasang iboto ang mga ambisiosong tao. gaya ni Poe at Escodero payo ko lamang ito sa ating mga kababayan. lahat nang itoy personal kong pananaw salamat po.

    8. Charlie Jalandoni on

      Sinayang lang ni Grace Poe ang pangarap nya dahil sa ambition ni Chiz. She has all the chances to become the president of this country if she humbles herself to be the VP of Mar Roxas I am sure, their tandem will work good and after Mar who do you think will be the next to succeed, of course , Grace Poe. Yong ang sinayang nya , kasi nag pa-oto sa mga oportunista katulad ni Chiz . Ay…..nako po, sayang na sayang lang…..!

      • Si Binay at Roxas ay purong Filipino at kahit minsan ay hindi nag renounce nang citizenship, mga tunay na pilipino, pero walang mga pusong Pilipino, hindi maka tao at ninanakawan pa ang kapwa mamayang pilipino.

        Nuong tumama ang Yolanda sa tacloban ay pinag reresign pa muna ni Roxas si Romualdez sa pag ka mayor ng tacloban bago daw muna tumulong ang national Gov,t at kung hindi raw mag reresign ay bahala na daw sa buhay nila ang mga taga tacloban, libo libo na ang namamatay at million milliong tao na ang nagugutom ay namomolitika pa si Roxas. ganito bang mga tao ang dapat mamuno sa Pilipinas kong minamahal Mahal.

        Walang tiwala si Aquino kay Roxas kaya hindi sinabihan sa mamasapano operation, mas sinabihan pa si Purisima, na tauhan lang ni Roxas sa DILG, kasi ay palpak si Roxas sa DOTC at DILG.

      • geraldine cordero on

        bakit pagmagvice muna ni mar sir grace…magiging natural born citizen na sya for sure? wala na yung lahat na evidence against her ngayon? wala!!! –if only for the same self serving beaurocrat, its better for poe to meet her sudden death or suicide.

    9. Kung talagang Natural Born-Citizen si Grace Poe, try ng SET ang DNA Testing sa mga anak ni Militar, Rosemarie Sonara at kay Bong-bong Marcos. As a Clinical Laboratory Scientist, 99 % we can prove kung sino ang meron match na DNA sa kanila. @ least, nagsimula tayo sa science.

      Salamat po.

    10. CESAR MASCARINA on

      For me, the citizenship is not the issue, neither is the residency. The bigger issue is Poe’s moral ascendancy. The fact is Grace Poe has pledged loyalty to the USA as a requisite for a US citizenship. Pledging allegiance to the USA (please read the exact wordings) in effect is a renunciation of Filipino citizenship and loyalty. To me if at one time in my life I renounced my loyalty to my country then I consider myself unfit and unworthy to become the president and No. 1 citizen of my country. Not all of us have the same sense of morality, integrity and decency. For this reason, we find it difficult to comprehend the moral ascendancy issue.

    11. unfortunately, this country doesn’t have a good candidate to lead its miserable people, parepareho lang silang lahat… binay, roxas, poe, marcos etc etc! sa totoo lang naiiyak na ako sa sobrang banas sa mga politikong namumutiktik sa pinas…. hayyyyyy!!!

    12. I admire more Rizalito David for his courage and pursuit of the rule of law no matter of the time lapse for it is immaterial on the issue of Grace Poe’s natural-born status Filipino citizenship since “natural-born issue as a relevant requirement to hold office in the Senate, or Presidency can be raised any time. Now that Poe declared her intention to run for the Presidency, the Quo Warranto Petitionwigth SET and Disqualification with COMELEC will be more significantly legally relevant. From the documents submitted by Poe to the SET, Poe have not proved her status as a “natural-born Filipino”. The certificate of live birth issued by Jaro, Iloilo in 1968 with militar as the parent-founder of the foundling and the National Statistics in 1974 showing spouses Susan and FPJ as live birth parents, spurious as it is false, did not both proved the biological parents of Grace Poe as Filipinos. Poe renounced her Filipino citizenship when she was naturalized as an American. And when Poe later reacquired her Filipino citizenship, she as not restored to her “natural-born status” since she had not shown that she was a natural-born Filipino. If at all she reacquired Filipino citizenship, it was only a “dual” Filipino citizenship as she still remains an American, which even complicates her claim of re acquiring a “natural-born” status.
      Escudero, as an opportunist trapo, has his own personal agenda of encouraging, “pushing” and prevailing over Grace Poe, to be hier VP tandem. Escudero, deep in his heart, strongly believe Poe will win and himself carried by Poe’s votes, but will be disqualified by the COMELEC or PET (Presidential Electoral Tribunal) on the natural-born citizenship issue. Thus, Escudero will be a free-loader in the 2016 election as Poe will be providing the campaign funds for the tandem. In the end Grace Poe’s popularity and campaign funds will support and make Escudero win the VP slot and will finally takeover the Presidency for remainder of Poe’s six-year term, and will run for reelection and if he wins will have more than six year (or ten years) as President, like Arroyo. Same good tidings and fate will happen to Escudero, if BINAY wins, since BINAY may be impeached or sent to jail for plunder. What a fateful and blessed day for the opportunist trapo and glib politician who have done nothing in Congress all these years, except to get drunk and play supportive role to anybody doing creditable work in Congress. I hope my prediction does not happen for Poe to win, or BINAY to win and most of all for Escudeto to win for our country will,just go to the dogs!

      • Si Binay at Roxas ay purong Filipino at kahit minsan ay hindi nag renounce nang citizenship, mga tunay na pilipino, pero walang mga pusong Pilipino, hindi maka tao at ninanakawan pa ang kapwa mamayang pilipino.

        Nuong tumama ang Yolanda sa tacloban ay pinag reresign pa muna ni Roxas si Romualdez sa pag ka mayor ng tacloban bago daw muna tumulong ang national Gov,t at kung hindi raw mag reresign ay bahala na daw sa buhay nila ang mga taga tacloban, libo libo na ang namamatay at million milliong tao na ang nagugutom ay namomolitika pa si Roxas. ganito bang mga tao ang dapat mamuno sa Pilipinas kong minamahal Mahal.

        Walang tiwala si Aquino kay Roxas kaya hindi sinabihan sa mamasapano operation, mas sinabihan pa si Purisima, na tauhan lang ni Roxas sa DILG, kasi ay palpak si Roxas sa DOTC at DILG.

      • ano sabi mo bro. pag nanalo si escudero ay mapupunta sa mga aso ang bansang pinas waaahhhhh eng eng ka pala eh matagal ng pinamamahalaan ng mga aso ang pinas ngayon mo pa lang nalaman yan. in fact yong aso naging buwaya na nga eh….

        ang totoo nyan de bubuti ang pinas kundi tau makialam sa maling gawain ng mga pulitikong nalulok sa pwesto. kahit sino pa ang maluklok sa mataas na pwesto at de gumawa ng mabuti the phils. will still go to the dogs or to the crocks….

    13. On Grace Poe citizenship by birth issue.
      Philippine nationality law provides that a person becomes a Philippine citizen by birth if
      1. that person was born on or after October 15, 1986 and at least one parent was a Philippine citizen on the birthdate;
      2. that person was born on or after January 17, 1973 and both parents were Philippine citizens on the birthdate or the person elected Philippine citizenship pursuant to the provisions of the 1935 Constitution;
      3. or the person was born on or after May 14, 1935 and the father was a Philippine citizen or, if the father was not, the mother was a Philippine citizen and the person elected Philippine citizenship pursuant to the provisions of the 1935 Constitution;
      4. or that person was born on or after August 29, 1916 and prior to May 14, 1935 and at least one parent was an inhabitant and resident of the Philippine Islands and a Spanish subject on April 11, 1899, or that person was an inhabitant and resident of the Philippine Islands and a Spanish subject on April 11, 1899, except in certain specific cases.
      Grace Poe was born on September 3, 1968 in Iloilo City so she cannot be categorized under #1 or #2.
      Grace Poe is very unusual case. But given the circumstances of her birth her case can be argued in court that she is a natural born citizen under #3 if her mother was in fact a Filipino citizen at the time of her birth and Grace Poe elected to be Filipino citizen which she must have before she went to the USA.

      • tama ka sa mga sinabi mo bro. dapat talagang patunayan ni grace poe na isa sa kanyang mga magulang ay isang pilipino citizen para makatakbo sya sa pagka pangulo pero habang pinapatuyan pa nya yan eh huag munang mag bigay ng kong ano ano kumento na sya ay ganun ganyan etc. etc.. ang tao kasi ang hilig mang husga, huag ganyan kc paano kong mapatunayan na sya ay isang tiunay na pilipino eh de mapapahiya kau sa mga maling akusasyon sa kanya. pwede ba maghintay muna tau ng” Tamang Panahon” (qoute from LOLA NIDORA ng ALDUB heheh) na ang korte ay magsalita na sa tunay na status ni grace poe then by then pwede na kayong manghusga marahil ok ba mga bro. and sis.

        masyado kayong atat eh de nyo ba alam na sa mga ginagawa ninyong yan eh lalong sumisikat si grace at nagiging underdog sya na syang magdadala sa kanya sa pagka pangulo…

    14. The bottom line, whether she is filipino or american, does she can manage to run the philippine government. ??? I dont think so.. HIndi pa siya pwede dahil kulang pa siya sa karanasan. Sa mamasapano masssacre lang, hindi niya nakapagbigay ng specific conclusion. In the end, para wala na siyang alam sa katotohanan…/ She is not consistent in her decisions.. paano pa kung siya ang presidente , para siyang si Pnoy na hindi alam mga sinasabi… No way.. ..

      • nabanggit mo si pinoy na naging pres. na walang alam at naging pres. eh bakit de pwede kay grace poe unfair naman ata yon bro…

        iisa lang naman ang alam ko para maging pres. ka ayon sa batas ang ikaw ay isang resident ng pinas for 6 years and six months ba yon at ikaw ay isang natural born citizen. so de sinasabi d2 na kong ikaw ay walang alam sa pwestong nais mo ay de ka dapat iboto or not qualified to run as pres. of the phils…in short kong pwede kay pinoy bakit de pwede kay grace poe. hayaan na lang natin na ang mga tao ang magpasya kong sino ang gusto nilang iboto para maging pres. nila ok…..go go go grace poe for president jejejjee.

    15. Before lashing out in a ranting and almost illiterate way abt the citizenship of Poe and used the stipulations and how they shld be interpreted, you shld have a closer look to the international treaties about citizenship.
      NO child can be born without a citizenship!!
      If aboandoned and put out as a foundling said child is ny international law a citizen of the country in which he/she was found!!

    16. If Poe wins, Revilla and Ejercito will be freed. As well, Poe at this early stage is already indebted to a lot of supporters of her father. She has so much baggage and travel companions so to speak and she lacks the clout to defy them. Expect the rise of cronies and coup de erstwhile in her “leadership”

      • again you tend be be judgmental bro. walang ganyanan kong ayaw mo kay poe so be it ang dami mong satsat eh haka haka mo lang naman yang mga sinasabi mo……..

    17. Let Grace do what she intends to…run for RP Pres in 2016 if she wishes. Let her see if FPJ affinity will do magic for her. Let us not under estimate the intelligence of our young voters now a days. The young voters are more intelligent than the young voters in 2010.

      Before the young voter when you ask about what he thinks about the country’s current situation..will reply with something like “Tsong naman”, but today “Anong Ulam”. You see the disparity…this will elicit food for your thoughts.

    18. I am also one who believes that she will lose her disqualification case. When this happens, however, she still has an ace up on her sleeves. All she has to do is submit to a DNA test with Bongbong who she calls “brod” and who calls her “sis”. This test will prove that she has, indeed, a pure Ilocano, not just Filioino, father. Mr. Tatad is privy to this and I don’t understand why he has not exposed it. All cabinet members during his time talk openly about their boss’s liaison with Sampaguita starlets (not just RoseM) supplied by his executive secretary who was sacked unceremoniously when madama mama found about these escapades. The story about the foundling adopted by FPJ and Susan is an elaborate fodder for a teleserye with unbelievable twists and turns (with even Cardinal Sin involved) hard to find in real life. It is clearly fiction. Grace has not stopped living in her fairy tale. If her true bloodline is established, that is the time I will vote for her because her real father was my idol and benefactor. The truth will set you free, Grace Llamanzares.

    19. Cong Leni Robredo should not use Grace Poe if she plans to run for VP or senator next year. Masyado siyang halata.

      • Grace Llamanzares has just declared! She is not an American citizen anymore, and that she is running for President da Pilipinas. Woo hoo!! Yey! Boodle-boodle, and she says she will do daang matuwid also. ( She’ll probably do a Binay and say “Politiko lang yan!!” if the decision is that is not qualified to run for gobyerno political office. Politiko lang iyan!!! Woo hoo!!! )

    20. Leni Robredo’s opinion and comments re Grace Poe’s citizenship does not matter. Hindi naman niya kilala ng lubos si Sen Grace para ijudge niya yung tao.

      • Grace poe is being pushed by various pressure groups that will use her if she wins. This country is being run by very corrupt groups and they do not care . They do not love this country. Miss poe it is too late to quit. I will pray for you because i know you are a good person.

      • charisse aquino on

        Relax..it was Karen Davila who asked for her opinion, alangan naman di nalang sy sasagot di ba… Anyway, totoo di n naman yung sagot niya…

      • Honest Politics on

        I don’t believe it was Leni Robredo who made that statement. Let’s not believe everything that is posted on the internet.

    21. Will someone stand up and say to us “ano bang nagawa ni FPJ para sa bayan natin para gawin natin si Grace Poe na susunod na pangulo?” May pagmamahal ba si Grace Poe sa bayan na piliin niya maging Amerikano at itakwil ang Pilipinas. Grace Poe really did took her oath of aligiance in front of an American flag and at the end of oath she even did say so Help me God. Pati sa God nagsinungalin siya. Nakalimutan ba ni Grace nuon elementary ang binibigkas niya tuwing umaga ang Panatang Makabayan? O di niya naiintindihan and mga salitang “sisikapin kong maging isang tunay na Pilipino sa isip, sa Gawa at sa salita”.

      • i have the same question, ano ba nagawa ni pnoy para naging presidente? nothing except that her mother died.

    22. How did she become a US Citizen in the first place. ! Why not search in the US to clarify the whereabouts of her birth mother and you will know the right answers..Its a Public Document Issue anyway and its open for every one to look at it. The birth Certificate they showed which you stated is very suspicious … is for sure a fabricated one. As what I read and quote that her birth mother is Rosemarie Sonora, sister of Susan Roces. No way she will deliver her child in the Philippines for sure to hide some shame… and for sure the child was born as a US Citizen.. and its against the Constitution to hold a Public Office. And what is their point of telling a lie when eventually the truth will come out….!

      • To satisfdy curiousity, why not research in the country recorder’s office in the U.S. where Sonora resided?

    23. Nakakatakot na a foreign power pushing Grace, taking advantage of her popularity, to run for presidency. What are the promises made to her kaya malakas ang hiya niya na tumakbo? Could it be a smartmatic program making her “selected president”?

    24. @fernando: duda ko ay alam ni chiz yan para pag na disqualified si poe ay sya ang next in line to replace/assume the presidency.

      • Leodegardo Pruna on

        Good logic and of course the likes of Chiz would certainly take advantage of it. God bless the Philippines.

    25. you have already raised your point, mr. tatad. so please, just let the SET and other authoritative bodies decide…

      • There’s nothing wrong with Mr. Tatad’s article. If you don’t like it, why did you read it and make such comment?

    26. SIR,
      The law and the operative words(technicality) are often subject to interpretations.
      I reserve my comment after SET findings.
      Ang problema lang po e.
      Mayroon atang mga miembro ang SET with due respect are not Constitutionalists or even Lawyers.

    27. Honor and shame? She never had these to begin with. Why did she join the yellows who cheated FPJ in 2004? She’s the political equivalent of a porn star if you ask me.

    28. Leodegardo Pruna on

      Shameless and graceless GRACE accompanied by her moneyed and industry supporters willing to spend for bigger profit with GRACE as dummy. GRACE should wake up from this bad dream and to regain whatever lost in respect should even tender her resignation as senator of the Philippines. Not only is GRACE not ready, she is just dreaming. God bless the Philippines.

    29. Dante Guillarte on

      What bothers me is the status of her husband and children. Have they all renounced their american citizenship? Or is it only Grace Poe that did it? Is it constitutionally/legally correct that we elect a President with an american husband and children?

    30. Tatad – you are right on target ! Grace Poe is NOT qualified to even be a Senator, let alone run for President. All her followers, including Escudero and her financial backers are BLIND FOOLS !! The Philippines deserves a better candidate than someone like POE who is a liar and she does not respect the Constitution. The SET should DISQUALIFY her on Sept 21 and not delay for the sake of the Filipinos. Grace Poe is dreaming – she thinks she can fool the Filipinos with her lies and drama about being adopted /foundling when this is not the real issue. The issue is with her citizenship and lack of residency. Grace Poe should be jailed for lying in her Senatorial Certificate of Candidacy.

      Grace Poe is just like Leni Robredo – also a liar and now the VP candidate of Mar Roxas. Leni Robredo also has a pending Disqualification Case filed with the COMELEC since more than 1.5 years ago about using campaign funds from foreigners (US citizens) in the last election through US citizen Loida Lewis and many others – which is a violation of the Constitution and Comelec Election Code. Leni Robredo was also recipient of DAP funds during the 2013 election campaign through Mar Roxas, Drilon and Francis Pangilinan. The skeletons in the closet of Leni Robredo (Mar’s best friend) should also be exposed. These legislators, both POE and ROBREDO are fooling the Filipinos ! They should both be disqualified and jailed !

      • Uy, salamat hijo sa impormasyon tungkol sa DQ na kaso ni Ms. Leni. Bakit di kaya umuusad ang kaso? Mahigit ng isang taon na yan. Dapat meron din maghain ng petition ng mandamus para utusan ang Comselect na dinggin na ang kaso. Dapat pagibayuhin ng Comelec ang pag rebisa sa mga pinanggagalingan ng pondo ng mga kandidato. Mahirap palang gamitin ang mga kaperahan ni Mr. Marcos kun kakandidato dahil malamang na galing ito sa ibang bansa.

    31. Anima A. Agrava on

      She’s part of the foreign powers’ plan to take over the Philippines and used it for their own ends.

    32. They have gone to the dogs!
      Place today’s photo of Grace side by side with the 70’s photo of Rosemarie Sonora, the younger sister of Susan Roces who was then a budding starlet, and the maternal parentage of Grace is solved. Of course, it does not answer the paternal origin of Grace. As they say, only the mother knows.
      The labyrinthine tele -like novela that shrouds Grace’s parental origin raises grave questions on the way her handlers are managing this issue. Wittingly or unwittingly, her handlers are raising doubts on Grace’s values of honesty, forthrightness and integrity which are governance -related and stand in shining contrast to perceptions of her probable rivals’ corrupt and plunderous ways, and bungling and empathy-less managerial styles. Her panhandling gestures to INC during its recent EDSA – SHAW show of force gathering marked her as someone capable of casting aside principles and embracing tradpols ‘ opportunism. If Grace’s campaign style continues, she may end up being amazingly graceless.

      • Mr. Tatad knows who the real father is. She was a product of the famous “gun room” in the compound where Mr. Tatad held office for many years. He may be waiting for the proper time to spill the real beans.

    33. The second certificate of live birth is no less invalid than the first. Dated May 4, 2006, or 38 years after Mrs. Llamanzares was born, it was executed by Mrs. Jesusa Sonora Poe, her adoptive mother, who identifies the child no longer as Mary Grace Natividad Militar but rather as Mary Grace Sonora Poe, allegedly born to herself (Jesusa) and to her husband Ronald Allan Poe in Jaro, Iloilo City on Sept. 3, 1968, several months before they were married on Dec. 25, 1968 in Valenzuela, Bulacan. No medical or legal evidence exists to show that Mrs. Poe ever conceived and delivered a child during her marriage to the famous actor Fernando Poe, Jr. who died on Dec. 13, 2004. All the known facts about Mrs. Llamanzares’ birth, including public statements made by Mrs. Poe and Mrs. Llamanzares herself, contradict this false claim

      If this record is submitted by Ms. Llamanzares to the Senate Electoral Tribunal, then the senate requires too, the Medical Pregnancy Check up record of Mrs Susan Roces Poe , and also the hospital or clinic record where she gave birth Grace. confirming that Grace is her biological child.

      • RE the birth certificate, once the court has approved the adoption, the birth certificate is changed to reflect the names of person who adopted the child as the mother and father ( thru a court order ). My wife and i adopted a child, and my child’s birth certificate shows that my wife and i are the parents. So there is nothing spurious with the birth certificate. I am not for Grace Poe, i think that she has a problem with her residency since she was still using her American passport up to 2009-2010

    34. Senator Kit, you just hit the mark in citing the Arnado case!! Poe’s candidacy is just a wishful thinking..

    35. Well, this is not surprising at all. The Filipinos have been with the dogs for centuries! We have no backbone, no principle, no qualms at all with national pride and honor, etc. We are a dead people pretending to be alive!

    36. Jose A. Oliveros on

      It was petitioner Lito David who won the first round; not stateless Grace Poe-Llamanzares. Her lawyers wanted the SET to dismiss the petition outright for having been filed of time. They were wrong because the 2013 SET Rules provide that any question regarding citizenship may be filed anytime during a senator’s tenure which means that Poe-Llamanzares’ citizenship can be questioned till 2019.
      Her lawyers wanted the petition dismissed for such technical matters as lack of proper verification; defective certification of non-forum shopping, laches, etc. etc. They even asked the SET to cite David in contempt of the SET. But while the SET is empowered to dismiss a petition outright if not sufficient in form and substance, the fact that the SET set the preliminary conference -and held it where the residency issue was dropped at the suggestion of SET Chair Justice Antonio Carpio – meant that the SET consider.
      the David Yap petition as worthy of a full-blown hearing.
      So it is only the yellow-conscripted media, specially the Inquirer, which headlined that Poe-Llamanzares won the first round; when it was the petitioner David who really and actually won.

      • Standing is threshold requirement when filing a case.
        This case should be dismissed because the Petitioner lacks standing to bring the action because even if the case is decided in his favor he will not benefit from it because he is not the Number 13 in the ranking in the last senatorial election. The court/tribunal should not waste time and resources adjudicating a case when plaintiff/petitioner has no interest in the case. Being a defeated senatorial candidate is not enough. A petitioner/plaintiff should have a stake in the outcome of the case. If he doesn’t have as in this case, it should be dismissed for lack of standing. This is because unlike a quo waaranto vs. a corporation which can be brought by the SolGen, this type of quo warranto is personal.

      • Standing is threshold requirement when filing a case.
        This case should be dismissed because the Petitioner lacks standing to bring the action because even if the case is decided in his favor he will not benefit from it because he is not the Number 13 in the ranking in the last senatorial election. The court/tribunal should not waste time and resources adjudicating a case when plaintiff/petitioner has no interest in the case. Being a defeated senatorial candidate is not enough. A petitioner/plaintiff should have a stake in the outcome of the case. If he doesn’t have as in this case, it should be dismissed for lack of standing. This is because unlike a quo waaranto vs. a corporation, which can be brought by the SolGen this type of quo warranto is personal.

    37. adonis b. rocha on

      Well said Kit Tatad ! Finally Grace P. Llamanzares is unmasked….shall we permit a liar based on the stated documents she submitted to lead this benighted land, as President of the Philippines ? This is scary to say the least.

      What we need is a steady hand, disciplined, fearless and well experienced leader in Panfilo ” Ping” Lacson as president for 2016. All the others are not cut for the job.

    38. the question is this: assuming she wins the presidency, whose allegiance to what country will they uphold given the fact that only grace poe is the non u s citizen in her own family?

    39. “anuman ang lahi?” ke Filipino ka o Amerikano, ito ba ang ibig sabihin nito? Paano na ang rule of law?

    40. YOU BELONG TO THE MARCOS REGINE CRONIES .SO ASK YOU SELF THEN VIRATA !
      GRACE POE IS NOT CORRUPT ,SHE IS UNTAINTED ,SMART ,FAST LEARNER,SHE DO WALK THE TALK ,VISIONARY AND PROACTIVE.

      REPLY
      But she is not qualified t5o run under the Constitution and the election code rules.

      • GRACE POE IS NOT CORRUPT
        ————————————————

        The why did she give the massacre report to the Ombudsman instead of to the senate where now a vote is required to reopen.

        Giving that report to a known Aquino lapdog shielded him from further investigation, knowing full well that the subservient house will never vote to reopen it unless they want to face charges for stealing their pork barrel allocations.

    41. “However he used his US passport to travel at least twice to the US after taking his oath of allegiance.”

      Kit Tatad, are you trying to mislead the readers because you wanted to suit the Arnado’s case to your opinion? The quoted sentence above is from your article regarding Arnado. Instead of saying the truth, you wrote Arnado used his passport after TAKING HIS OATH OF ALLEGIANCE. This is not correct. Arnado used his passport after renouncing his US Citizenship and the effect is he undo his renunciation of his US citizenship. So, my question, are you trying to mislead your readers?

      • Bonifacio Claudio on

        “… on July 10, 2008 (Arnado) took an oath of allegiance to the Republic of the Philippines…”

        Have you any information on the EXACT DATE when Arnado used his US passport travelling twice to the US after having taken in 2008 his oath of allegiance to the Philippines?

    42. If ever Ms. Llamanzares is declared to be qualified to run for a highrer position and not disqualified as a Senator, the Philippine Constitution might as well be torn, scrapped or burned; it is not of any worth! This is considering all the facts and circumstances stated in this article and in other analysis of the subject’s status. If the Philippine Constitution is not taken seriously, let’s not expect law and order in the country and let’s just go by popularity and by authority of the powers-that be .

      It is really very surprising that there are still many legislators and politicians who ‘woo’ Ms. Llamanzares to run for higher position despite her possibility of even being disqualified as senator.Her popularity is not of her own; he had to avail of her adoptive father’s name and dream (?). Her “derivative popularity” has no bearing to her ability as politician, muchless to govern a country. Her actuations during the INC crisis confirmed her mediocrity and “wishy-washy” decision making and incompetence.

      Assuming that, by ‘miracle’, or by ‘crook’, she will be declared ‘qualified’, for delicadeza, if she has such animal, she should not run because having been a U.S. Citizen at one time or another, she should not be voted for as head of the country. Her allegiance and faith to the Philippine Constitution is not as ‘solid’ as one who always been a Filipino from birth and never resided out of the country. Rep. Robredo is right!

      It’s not fair and proper to say that she will continue her adoptive father’s dream or have started because her father has never shown any real life ability to govern.He might have been a hero in many instances, but only in the “make-believe” world! He was a movie idol.How many politicians have the same dream? Everyone! But, it doesn’t mean that they are all qualified, as Ms. Llamanzares seem to indicate with her dream. But, it is not bad to dream so, to her, dream on!

      • If I am not mistaken, Mr. Ronald never had any Oscar Award but his presidency is now being touted as the best US presidency in modern ttimes. Maybe, Ms. Grace thinks that popularity can be transferred and thereafter govern like Mr. Ronald.

        Secondly, whether she is DQ or not, a lot of millions may have been poured into her coffers already by this time.

    43. The Philippines is without honor or justice which happens to be a clone of the current politicians who corrupt and loot the country without fear of charges.

      Scandal after scandal and nothing and no one convicted of anything,

    44. Grace Poe (GP) is a natural-born-citizen (NBC) because foundlings are not excluded from being NBC because I may say of a ‘loophole’ in our Constitution or because it is intended. Had the framers of the Constitution intended to exclude foundlings, the wordings on who are natural-born-citizen (NBC) in the Constitution would be: “Those whose [natural/biological] fathers or mothers are citizens of the Philippines.”

      The absence of the word “natural or biological” means that foundlings are included on who are NBCs even though their biological parents are unknown. This presumption is further buttressed by the fact that foundlings do not need to do any act to perfect their citizenship because when they started their civil life and started filling-up those questionnaires about citizenship, they invariably fill the questionnaire with “Filipino Citizen” without any court order or something that ‘perfected’ their citizenship because they are already perfect citizens. Because foundlings are not excluded as NBC, they are deemed included.

      By this interpretation, it can also be argued further that any child whose “father or mother” is a NBC is also a NBC even via adoption. If we want to exclude foundlings we need to amend the constitution and insert the word “natural of biological”.

      Also, when adoption becomes final, a new birth certificate (BC) is issued with the
      adopting parents as “new parents” and the old one is cancelled or no more effect. So there’s nothing wrong GP listing FPJ and Susan as her parents.

      • You should take not that the constitution in effect when GP was born and the current constitution are two different animals!

      • @ SDA: Your interpretation of the constitution is totally wrong. Do more research and you can easily find the reason why the framers of the 1935 Phil. Constitution excluded foundlings in the relevant article about Citizenship.

    45. Marahil ang adviser ni miss grace ay si chiz escudero .[AT PAG SASALITA SI MR ESCUDERO MAKIKITA MO NA TUNAY NA MAGALING SIYA ] MAY I SUGGEST NA KUNG TALAGANG HINDI NARARAPAT NASI MISS GRACE AY KUMANDIDATO SA PAGKA PRESIDENTE DAPAT LANG NA SABIHIN ITO NI MR C ESCUDERO ABOGADO SIYA AT ALAM NIYA ANG BATAS…HUWAG BABUYIN AT IPAGBILI ANG CONSTITUTION…SALAMAT PO

      • Alam na alam ni Escudero ang tungkol sa legal issues surrounding GP, but, he has also his own personal agenda. Kung manalo si GP (Heaven forbid) and then eventually disqualified, he has a free ticket to Presidency! Then we are doomed! As it is already, hell has broke loose!